Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Youngs in Southsea


A short while ago Peter, my second cousin, (in Bermuda) had asked me to look into the family history of his grandfather (husband of my aunt Pauline). It was known the Youngs were from Portsmouth/Southsea but researching the 1911 census had not turned up any positive leads. 

Some few weeks ago I was taking another look at the photos that cousin Karen has taken of the card & photo memorabilia that cousin Diana (who died earlier this year) had collected and amongst those was an unsigned card from Dieppe, dating from April 1918, addressed to Hilda Young of 141 Manners Rd Southsea. 




This find did the trick! I found her quickly in the 1911 census. The others in the household were: 

Charles Young, plumber, the head  of the family, aged 49 (born approx 1862). Mary Ann Young his wife, aged 42 and they had been married for 23 Years. The children were:         
  • Hilda Mary Young, age 17, born 1894. She was a cashier for a grocer
  • Charles Edward Young, aged 15 born 1896. He was an apprentice to a pawnbroker. Charles married Pauline Ient in 1922
  • Leslie George Young, aged 6, born 1905

Here is a close up of the wording:



For more information about the Young family in Bermuda click here!

The search continues! ...........

Monday, November 12, 2012

Probably the oldest Ient photograph!

One very special photograph, of possibly a Ient family member from Stuttgart, Germany, has been discovered by Tess Ient amongst Tony Ient's papers. It was handed down from Tony's father, Thomas Ient. Anyway it's great news that it has been discovered.......... 




One can only assume that Karl Ient brought it with him from Stuttgart, Germany; though it could have been sent to him. As it has been preserved for nearly 140 year I feel that it is of a member of his the Ient/Jent family. Karl Ient was born in Kingdom of Württemberg (now a state within Germany) and Stuttgart was it's capital.   

Karl came to England shortly before 1879 when he was about 19 or 20. Shortly after he arrived he was married at Islington parish church in 1879. 



If you want to read more about the Ient/Jent family history go to: www.ient.org.uk or contact me, Vic Ient at: http://www.ient.org.uk/index.php?page=contact

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Ient Photo History!

New photographs of Ient family members from the late 19th & early 20th centenary have come to light! 

Tess Ient discovered some old 'Ient' photos in her husband's (Tony Ient) papers. One must assume they were handed down from Tony's father Thomas Ient. Anyway it is great news that they have been discovered: 


Karl Ient, later called Charles,  (1859-1919) is pictured in the centre. His son, Charles Frederick Ient (1883-1964) is on the left. We don't know who the other person is.  

When was this photo taken? Well, Charles is dressed in the uniform of the Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry. He joined this regiment in 1900. As you will see he has a medal & his rank is corporal; therefore we think this was taken about 1902. Karl Ient would have been about 43.      



Another photo discovered at the same time was of Karl Ient when he was much younger. At a guess, I would say he looks between 25 & 30 - taken between 1885 & 1890.  This photo was taken by Messrs Koenig & Lloyd, 17 Hindon Street of Pimlico, London SW, near to Victoria Station.



However the photo we can date to within a couple of years is that of Julia Hemmings (1865 to 1955), the second wife of Karle Ient.  Here she is pictured with a friend (unknown). This photo was taken by the Parisian Photographic Co. of 45 Gildridge Road, Eastbourne. From the 1891 census records we know that Julia Hemming was working as a cook for James Young and family at 27 Jevington Gardens, Eastbourne, Sussex. So we can assume that this was taken between 1890 & 1892 when Julia was between 25 & 27 years old.    

Here is a recent photo of Jevington Gardens, Eastbourne:














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Sunday, March 13, 2011

Research Progress



For quick reference of web site links go to the end of this article


Early work was marked out by a breakthrough (enabled by cousin Marsue in the USA who gave me a copy of a German family tree, the Keyerlebers) which enabled me, with the expert help of a German genealogist to trace the Ient (Jent in Germany) back to Johann Peter Jent of Winnenden, Germany (north of Stuttgart)  in about the 1780s.  

Aside from Germany the early work & indeed the present day work has diversified into other families such as Hemmings – this is the family of Julia Hemmings (Karl Ient’s second wife). Our information about the Hemmings family has been significantly aided by the extensive work carried out by Rob Hemmings. He has researched in detail the family tree members from the present day back into the 19th century. Of course there are lots of related family names today such as Young, Hardiman, Hamilton, Risley, Henderson etc. However, let’s look at the situation currently – this can be viewed in a number of ways:

Family Tree
As far as the actual family tree is concerned – that is, ‘who was who’s mum or dad etc,’ the progress hasn’t been very much over the last 3 years but previously we made great strides in documenting hundreds of people. Marion Bance, my researcher, did the work with me mainly in 2004/7. The main work was to document the information about the people we know in an organised way – on the family tree. See: http://www.ient.org.uk/tree/login.php

In this period we also took the opportunity to expand the information we know about some people. For example – I was able to track down the London address of the parents of the first wife of Karl Ient  (1859 to 1919)  - Franzista Margaretha Henrietta von Felton- (1860 to 1886).  The other work included the expansion of the tree with information from Diana in Bermuda, Ian Ient in England, Dennis young in Scotland and Meredith Hargreaves in the USA.

Telling the Story
From the research I have been able to write up the story of various members of the family. It’s only partly complete – you can find what has been done so far at: http://www.ient.org.uk/history/index.php such as:

·         Biographies,  e.g., - Julia Ient (1865 - 1955), Albert Ient (1905 – 1988) & two of his army colleagues and Margaretha Ient (some of her letters).
·         Family Groupsso far I have completed the Hemmings family
·         Eras - Germany to 1900, a short piece about America 1860 - 1900, England 1871 - 1905, a short piece about England 1905 - 1948 and Oxford to 1935
·         Epochs & Places - WWI, WWII - Far East, Bermuda and Life Abroad for Albert & Toby Ient

The other innovation is the photo gallery where anyone can upload a picture: http://www.ient.org.uk/gallery/   I have put some photos there starting with the children of Karl Ient:

·         Charles Ient & Ellen (Nellie) King
·         Fredrick Ient & Florence Weekly
·         Katherine Ient & Sidney Fisher
·         Philip Jent & Joyce Vermy (including Philip's first wife, Elsie Newman)
·         Pauline Ient & Charles Young
·         Thomas Ient & Elizabeth Nunn
·         Albert Ient & Myfanwy Edwards
·         George Ient & Norah Norgrove
·         The Hemmings Family
·         Ients (Jents) in America

I hope other family members add their photos here. You can set yourself up as a contributor by clicking on the register button at the top of the page: http://www.ient.org.uk/gallery/register.php


Telling the story continues at the blog site: http://ient-family.blogspot.com/ This is the place for ad hoc notes about the researches. ANYONE can add to this. These are the stories so far:



Keeping in Contact

The Facebook site has recently been set up so anyone with news, photos & information can add stuff easily. Also this provides a way of for all family members to contact each other. It’s called: Ient Family & Descendants

or just send me an e-mail!

Summary of links:


Tuesday, August 03, 2010

There was a soldier...........

This month it is the 65th anniversary of the ending of WWII in the Far East, an anniversary we often forget as most people remember 'VE Day' in May when Hitler and the Nazis were finally defeated. VJ Day was three & a half months later, on the 15th August 1945. Whilst the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima is annually reviewed by the news media, what is less well remembered are the soldiers and PoWs who returned to their home countries long after the celebrations had ended. These are the forgotten heroes. My father was one of these. He finally returned from Japan via Australia in the winter of 1945. There were no street celebrations for heroes such as him although he had fought heroically in the Battle of Hong Kong in 1941 and also spent over three and a half years in a PoW camp, firstly in Hong Kong and then in Japan.


He returned home on the QSMV Dominion Monarch to a cold, wet, and somewhat depressed England. The only one to greet him was my mother at his billet near Southampton shortly after his arrival. However, my father did return - there were many who did not.

On returning from a visit to Australia we went to Japan earlier this year and, with the help of a Japanese friend, visited the site of the prison camp near the dockyards where my father worked at Habu on the island of Innoshima, some thirty five miles from Hiroshima. It was a moving experience and I have written about my father's wartime years on my website, - it describes Habu camp but for now, I would like to remember those forgotten soldiers who never returned.

While we were at Habu, my friend was asking for the whereabouts of the old PoW camp in the small seaside working port. At the information office, above the ferry terminal, the volunteers working there checked with the local council for us and they were able to establish that the camp was further along the coast, beyond the dockyard and that we should go to the Buddhist temple nearby for further information. Armed with this information and directions, we travelled down to a little hamlet just outside Habu, almost at the end of a peninsula.


We turned inland and drove through the narrow roads, past the old village houses, very similar to the description my father had given me. Just up the hill on the edge of the village there was the Buddhist temple. We were received by a young monk who confirmed the location of the PoW camp, down the hill in the bay at the water's edge.

However, he turned to the subject of the remains of a group of British soldiers (PoWs) who had died in the camp.

The ashes had been kept at the temple since the war of some thirty British soldiers. Sadly, this group were unnamed, - the unsung heroes of our army. The remains are now interred in a tomb under a statue of Buddha which is dedicated to the dead with no name. This was a melancholy scene, accentuated by the cloud and rain. Somehow, this was most appropriate for our visit.



This little article is my way of remembering not only my father, but also the men who gave their lives in a war to bring about peace and freedom in the world.



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Saturday, June 19, 2010

War Time Love Letters

When I was clearing my mother’s house in November 1999, following her death the previous month, I came across, in her bedroom, a shoe box stuffed full of letters written to her by my Dad in the 1940s - it was like finding treasure! The only other discovery was some photographs in an album downstairs. Whilst there were a few photos from the pre-war period, there weren’t all identified, but the letters really told a story; mostly sad, I must say.

The letters revealed a number of things. Firstly, something which I hadn’t realised, was that Mum was evacuated from Hong Kong at the beginning of July, 1940 and she didn’t see my father again until December, 1945, five and a half years. The other thing I didn’t realise is how young my brother George was when my mother and the two boys left Hong Kong. He wasn’t even 3 years old, so he never really knew my father before the war. Even John was only 5 years old when they left. Consequently, the reunion of the family in December 1945 must have been a strange affair, with certainly George meeting someone he didn’t even know. George was eight when they returned to England and John ten. So they had had most of their boyhood in Australia.



As I say, the letters were a sad affair, and, also sadly, they only a record of my father’s correspondence. I guess all the letters my father in Hong Kong were lost when he was captured. The letters started on 7th July 1940 when my father wrote to Mrs M. Ient, 2 Happy Glen Loop, c/o Red Cross Headquarters, Pines Hotel, Baguio, Manila. My mother and brothers had been evacuated to the Philippines, presumably because of the threat to the Hong Kong colony. He writes about the weather and I know from talking to my mother that in fact they had a terrible passage with the ship battling its way through a typhoon. Mum told me of the arrival in Manila where all the wives and children were absolutely exhausted and had had nothing to eat or drink for a good part of the journey. Apparently, the British officer was trying to order them onto buses immediately they disembarked. Mum told me that she marched up to the officer and demanded that they all be given tea and food before the journey began. Good old Mum! In the letter Dad is very concerned about the journey and he himself admits that after her departure he went to bed after a miserable day being so sad at her departure a week before the 7th July.


It was indeed a miserable year, for earlier in February 1940 my eldest brother Tommy had died in an accident and Dad comments in his letter that he took fresh flowers to the grave and he writes, ‘poor Tommy, love him, God bless his soul’. Dad had gone up to the grave on his crutches for earlier that year he had broken his leg. He ends this first letter with the words, ‘God bless you. I love you darling with kisses for George and John’.


Dad writes all the way through 1940 & 41 at the rate of more than one letter a week - some 76 letters in all! leaving aside the odd cablegram! His last letter before his capture by the Japanese army in Christmas Day 1941 was on 27th November - the battle of Hong Kong started just 6 days later on the 3rd December .......

More to follow. Also see our family web site at: www.ient.org.uk

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Saturday, July 11, 2009

Marriage in Malta!

On 10th September 1932 my mother & father, Albert & Toby (Myfanwy), were married in the Anglican Pro-Cathedral of St Paul, in Independence Square, Valletta, Malta. Dad was serving in the British army in the Royal Signals Regiment. Mum was a maid for the family of a British officer.


This church, built in the neo-classical style, the spire is a Valletta landmark. It is also know as the church of The Shipwreck of St Paul who was the first Christian missionary to Malta, when he was
shipwrecked on the Island in AD 59/60. More information click here

Monday, April 10, 2006

Welcome!

This website blog has been set up to provide a home for those interested in the Ient Family History. Please add your information here. Also please see the Ient family History web sites at: www.ient.org.uk as well. Please contact me is you have any questions Regards Vic Ient